So subverts what have you been reading recently?

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Kontra Wrote:Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow (again!)
on it at the moment as well! Icon_yippee

erbanta Wrote:moorcock - elric
Lovesmilie - read that when i was a bit younger, did you get a chance to read some of the other eternal-champion-books? i can remember to have read at least Corum and The Quest for Tanelorn...

last few weeks:
agamben - das offene
deleuze & guattari - rhizom
nietzsche - unzeitgemässe betrachtungen
J.G. Ballard Homerdrool
The Watchmen and V For Vendetta, gonna try a get Swamp Thing next week.
Watchmen, I have to read that again, brilliant stuff.
sidekick Wrote:Have to agree with cube about Big Sur - Kerouac's best.

Not far into it, quite good now, a difficult book to get into, well for me, first Kerouac I've read.
martsman Wrote:did you get a chance to read some of the other eternal-champion-books? i can remember to have read at least corum and the quest for tanelorn...

my local libraries have a rather extensive collection of moorcock's works. are those any good?


nexus8 Wrote:h.p. lovecraft whilst listening to good peni.... Icon_eek

here's an interesting site for those unfamiliar...fucking amazing writer...really...
http://www.hplovecraft.com/ Icon_eek

very overrated author imo. he was blessed with rather inspiring visions in his lifetime, but he simply never was a decent writer, and even onhis best stuff his literary abilities were rather lukewarm.

i wholeheartedly recommend you check out gary valentine lachman's 'turn off your mind - mystic sixties and the dark side of the age of aquarius' for tons of tips concering authors and books that inspired the likes of lovecraft, w. scott-elliot's 'the story of atlantis' probably being the most essential.

also, lovecraft's dear pen friend robert e. howard's conan books are magnifique! he too was no more than acceptable writer at best, but the conan mythology holds surprising amounts of depth and is very current at these present times. a true cult author Xyxthumbs
kingdom of fear .. i love all that hunter s thompson stuff Grin
and glue... was kinda hard to decipher the first few pages (damn accents)
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
just finished reading haunted Icon_eek palahniuk's best in my opinion, anyone tried to see if reading guts out loud makes people faint?
"knowing is not enough, we must apply.
willing is not enough, we must do."
Bruce Lee
erbanta Wrote:robert e. howard's... very current at these present times. Xyxthumbs

Chin what do you mean by this?

i used to like conan (when i was 14), and although the many subsequent 80s-style imitations have since been revealed for the torrid shit they were, i still dig the atmosphere of the concept in its original re howard form (which i think the first conan movie actually did some justice to btw)

anyway, explain please Icon_razz
Keep JUMPin ya Bastids
erbanta Wrote:
martsman Wrote:did you get a chance to read some of the other eternal-champion-books? i can remember to have read at least Corum and The Quest for Tanelorn...

my local libraries have a rather extensive collection of moorcock's works. are those any good?

well, it has been quite a long time since i read them. basically it is interesting to read more of them for some of the stories work together. as elric, corum and all the others are in fact incarnations of the eternal champion, the stories overlap in some episodes which is kind of a challenge puzzling together Smile

...storywise it's all the same tho: champion, weapon, nemesis, blood, gore and girls Wink
naphta Wrote:
erbanta Wrote:robert e. howard's... very current at these present times. Xyxthumbs

Chin what do you mean by this?

i used to like conan (when i was 14), and although the many subsequent 80s-style imitations have since been revealed for the torrid shit they were, i still dig the atmosphere of the concept in its original re howard form (which i think the first conan movie actually did some justice to btw)

anyway, explain please Icon_razz

it's midsummer's eve today and right now i should be fondling with (preferably large breasted) girls in the bushes, but okay Icon_razz

police state, multinational corporations driving countries into war for purely financial reasons, mind control, empty cultural imperialism, mindless dogmas = thulsa doom

modern activists, orwell's 1984 and other works of course, and even that ghastly v for vendetta movie (no, haven't read the comic) deal with the exact same problem as howard. whereas it is in today's zeitgeist to call for universal humane values, compassion and tolerance, preferably flavored with some sort of socialism, as the solution for the increasing and all-surrounding emptiness and hypocrisy, conan's reaction to this gnostic awakening is that of a warrior. he decides to hack and smash all the lies, false idols, the misleading illusions and those who follow them out from his way while searching god from within himself. conan isn't too bright even though he's definitely not an idiot either, and doesn't understand many of the things happening to him and around him, but he doesn't have to. by carrying out the (god's/gods') will he will receive all the answers for the questions his quest, his fate will teach him to ask.

for more information, please consult bathory's definitive viking metal records "hammerheart" and "twilight of the gods" :d hagakure would also be an excellent choice

and yes the first conan film is very adept Xyxthumbs arnie, james earl jones, decently enough directed, arnie, superb soundtrack and arnie Falcon

martsman Wrote:...storywise it's all the same tho: champion, weapon, nemesis, blood, gore and girls Wink

i liked the bits about gods, sorcery, fate, races and multiverses more Smile

will have a look one day
erbanta Wrote:
martsman Wrote:...storywise it's all the same tho: champion, weapon, nemesis, blood, gore and girls Wink

i liked the bits about gods, sorcery, fate, races and multiverses more Smile

will have a look one day

Oops right, there was sth more than gore & girls - but i read it when i was 16 or so Wink
martsman Wrote:gore & girls

absolutely nothing wrong with these! Grin
what was on and under my nightstand atm
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That Sex & Drugs book looks intresting...

Got these from the library today:

Globalization/Antii-Globalization - David Held & Anthony Mcgrew
The Puppet Masters - John Hughes-Wilson
Armed Struggle/ The History Of The IRA - Richard English
Rogue Nation - Clyde Prestowitz
The Jungle... is that the one about the slaughterhouses? Baffled
Statto Wrote:The Jungle... is that the one about the slaughterhouses? Baffled
its about a lithuanian immigrant who comes to america in the early 1900s and the conditions in the chicago stockyards and wage slavery and such back then Wink
dodz Wrote:did you ever read 'perdido street station' by meiville?


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^^^ AN ABSOLUTE MUST FOR THE SCI-FI MASSIVE!

just arrived

£3.50 from Amazon marketplace

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Let me know how that is Statto Grin

I'm reading Miles Davis' autobiography Smile Not been reading lately cos of my PSP, but looking to get back in the swing...
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Don Cherry Wrote:Every human is blessed in her or his life with one love (passion), no matter how long it may last. This Absolute love will last in one's heart and soul forever.
- The Balkans : A Short History
- Mark Mazower
Couldn't really get into this one. So I never finished it.

- The Silent Takeover : Global Capitalism and the Death of Democracy
- Noreena Hertz
It's allright. A bit naive at times. And her solutions for some problems talked about in the book are kind of far fetched IMO.

Reading a.t.m.
- Pirates and Emperors, Old and New : International Terrorism in the Real World
- Noam Chomsky
Could be interesting. Got this book only yesterday.
macc Wrote:let me know how that is statto :d

reading something else at the moment
i'll get on to it after that

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Don Cherry Wrote:Every human is blessed in her or his life with one love (passion), no matter how long it may last. This Absolute love will last in one's heart and soul forever.
re-reading c.g. jung's archetypes
that man had good insight and certainly kicked siggy 'blame it on sexuality' freud's ass Wink
just finished cold skin by albert sanchez pinol good book about a weather official on a antartic island his predecessor is not there when he arrives just a strange recluse called gruner who lives in a lighthouse then the night comes and strange things begin to happen, good book althou u can tell its the authors first its a quick read thou so recommended for this fine weather Cool
"knowing is not enough, we must apply.
willing is not enough, we must do."
Bruce Lee
nearly finished the plot against america - philip roth

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