Apart from tempo whats the difference between Dubstep & DnB?

Well?

dnb got more balls and makes me feel like daaamn i wanna brock out to this shit!

dupstep is pants, dnb less so in some cases :P

http://www.subvertcentral.com/forum/view...hp?t=28095
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No drawn out intros for a start! Although i do love a good old fashioned self indulgent D+B intro.

Silly question tho. I mean, what makes the core essence of any UK born electronic dance music different? not much. We go to clubs, smoke weed, drink beer and skank out. Big tings. Nothing long, fam

well, its a different genre, cant you hear it dubstep is not a mutated form of dnb...

i find it kinda groovier than dnb and better to dance to :P

Silly question tho. I mean, what makes the core essence of any UK born electronic dance music different? not much. We go to clubs, smoke weed, drink beer and skank out. Big tings. Nothing long, fam

My point exactly.

dubstep is not a mutated form of dnb...

I'm not so sure.

IMO

Jungle/DnB -> UK Garage -> Grime -> Dub Step

All essentially the same.

UK Garage = Two step Garage with Jungle bassline
Grime = UK Garage were the MC becomes the part of the tunes, almost rap.
Dubstep = Grime without MCs/Slower breaks with Jungle bassline/Slow DnB?



awaits slating

modern DNB = 200hz snare
dubstep = not so much

dubstep is not a mutated form of dnb...

I'm not so sure.

IMO

Jungle/DnB -> UK Garage -> Grime -> Dub Step

All essentially the same.

UK Garage = Two step Garage with Jungle bassline
Grime = UK Garage were the MC becomes the part of the tunes, almost rap.
Dubstep = Grime without MCs/Slower breaks with Jungle bassline/Slow DnB?



awaits slating

What on earth are you on about, how loosely do your connections to eachother have to be to qualify as being "essentially the same".

they're all genres of dance music born out of the uk that's for sure, but by no means essentially the same.

i find it kinda groovier than dnb and better to dance to :P

maybe so, but it never makes me feel like i wanna dance

According to this logic:

Disco = House = Techno = Hardcore = Jungle = DnB = UK Garage = Grime


Therefore:

Disco = Grime

Disco = Grime!

Yessssss!

Lolleatta Holloway B2B Grime MC!

sounds ruff!

Actually nearly there if you got someone to MC over the Nubian Minds tune on Scattered Snares, but don't know where the vocals from.

The dynamics are totally different. Its walking skank music essentially. Much more chilled than jungle/d+b

[noisemonkey]

one has stupid wobbly basslines and the other one is.... oh , hang on a minute..

one has stupid wobbly basslines and the other one is.... oh , hang on a minute..

one has stupid wobbly basslines and the other one is.... oh , hang on a minute..

modern DNB = 200hz snare
dubstep = not so much

i think the basslines in dubstep tend to be at the same tempo as the break whereas in dnb its usually two bars so that it isnt ultimate 180bpm turbo wobble... well i say that but thinking about it

also dubstep uses lots of synth drums, and very different beats in general with more swing and stuff

the way i see it dnb and dubstep are just vaguely similar things born from different scenes (jungle and garage) really

actually theres a police in helicopter dubstep tune where it sounds like they couldnt be bothered to find the original sample and just sampled the entire intro of the dnb one instead, so that the intro is at the dnb tempo and then it just cuts out and goes into dubstep

The big difference - the thing that makes me more interested in dubstep than almost all dnb at the moment - is that dubstep's still very open ended and you still get tunes that completely flip the script or do something really unexpected on a fairly regular basis, rather than everyone just doing slightly better versions of what's gone before.

actually theres a police in helicopter dubstep tune where it sounds like they couldnt be bothered to find the original sample and just sampled the entire intro of the dnb one instead, so that the intro is at the dnb tempo and then it just cuts out and goes into dubstep

The annoying thing about that is that it's just not a patch on the original in any way. Even in a dubstep set I'd rather hear the original because it sounds fucking incredible on a big system.

the big difference - the thing that makes me more interested in dubstep than almost all dnb at the moment - is that dubstep's still very open ended and you still get tunes that completely flip the script or do something really unexpected on a fairly regular basis, rather than everyone just doing slightly better versions of what's gone before.

personally i much prefer the tunes that are different but rough around the edges, to the well produced but dull things. been listening to n-types radio shows (download turx: http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/) for the past few weeks and the variety is amazing

i'd even say the slightly rough/dodgy production is part of the sound in some ways

[Macc]

Dubstep's yawn-inducing but is only 95% shite, as compared to bleeding-eardrum-inducing dnb that's 99% shite.

So much positive vibes in this thread. Love it!

[Macc]

i'd even say the slightly rough/dodgy production is part of the sound in some ways

dnb needs more crust.

i'd even say the slightly rough/dodgy production is part of the sound in some ways

dnb needs more crust.

i could use some of Pizza Hut's "stuffed crust" badness right now...