http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...ent-opt-in
not exactly scientific but it makes a change from the Guardian's usual position on porn i.e. it's evil and so are the men who consume it
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Quote:Anna Arrowsmith is a British pornographic film director working under the title Anna Span
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I don't think I really need to read them
Statto Wrote:Quote:Total 712 comments
I don't think I really need to read them
I only managed the first page, which is is as far as my ignoro-meter could reach. However a few of them are actually quite sensible or a change.
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droid Wrote:Quote:Anna Arrowsmith is a British pornographic film director working under the title Anna Span
Yeah the double entendre is lost on me though
perhaps I'm just innocent despite my advanced years
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I was laughing more at her occupation. Its a bit like reading a publican telling us why alcohol is good for society.
Ah yeah. But everyone has a vested interest of one sort or another.
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droid Wrote:I was laughing more at her occupation. Its a bit like reading a publican telling us why alcohol is good for society.
not really:
wikipedia Wrote:Her films focus on women enjoying sex including lesbian sex and heterosexual sex, with some bisexual sex. Other themes include sex toys, everyday objects (such as a chocolate bar or orange) being used as sex aids, threesomes, group sex and gang bangs. Role playing and fantasy are also common. Sometimes a character from one of her films appears in another. There is a big emphasis on reality both in script and actor performances. In her films she includes a much higher than average percentage of shots which look at the men, which she has termed 'female point of view' shots.
Whether she actually achieves that I don't know, but it's significant that she's trying.
Caitlin Moran Wrote:Pornography isn't the problem. (...) It's the porn industry that's the problem. The whole thing is as offensive, sclerotic, depressing, emotionally bankrupt and desultory as you would expect a widely unregulated industry worth, at an extremely conservative estimate, $30 billion to be. No industry ever made that amount of money without being superlatively crass and dumb.
and:
Caitlin Moran Wrote:In a world where you can get a spare kidney, a black-market Picasso or a ticket to ride into space, why can't I see some actual sex? Some actual fucking from people who want to fuck each other? Some chick in an outfit I halfway respect, having the time of her life? I have MONEY. I'm willing to PAY for this. I AM NOW A 35-YEAR OLD WOMAN, AND I JUST WANT A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INTERNATIONAL PORN INDUSTRY WHERE I CAN SEE A WOMAN COME. I just want to see a good time.
fair enough
Slothrop Wrote:It can certainly be educational:
http://blackboardsinporn.blogspot.com/
Naphta Wrote:Ah yeah. But everyone has a vested interest of one sort or another.
No, I dont think they do. Its clear that someone who sells porn has very significant reasons to promote it to a wider audience.
Statto Wrote:droid Wrote:I was laughing more at her occupation. Its a bit like reading a publican telling us why alcohol is good for society.
not really:
wikipedia Wrote:Her films focus on women enjoying sex including lesbian sex and heterosexual sex, with some bisexual sex. Other themes include sex toys, everyday objects (such as a chocolate bar or orange) being used as sex aids, threesomes, group sex and gang bangs. Role playing and fantasy are also common. Sometimes a character from one of her films appears in another. There is a big emphasis on reality both in script and actor performances. In her films she includes a much higher than average percentage of shots which look at the men, which she has termed 'female point of view' shots.
Whether she actually achieves that I don't know, but it's significant that she's trying.
Sure, thats great and all, but (if the above is true) she is like the Swedish avant garde school of film vs. Hollywood - ie, a tiny minority vs a sea of offensive shit.
That said, Im happy to agree that society is a much better place when disfigured face cancer victims have the right to sexy webchats with porn stars.
perhaps you'd prefer disfigured-face people to sit at home suicidal through sexual frustration?
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Naphta Wrote:perhaps you'd prefer disfigured-face people to sit at home suicidal through sexual frustration?
Yes, Id love that. In fact the very thought of it makes my processor over-clock alarmingly.
whatever turns you on old chap
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droid Wrote:Sure, thats great and all, but (if the above is true) she is like the Swedish avant garde school of film vs. Hollywood - ie, a tiny minority vs a sea of offensive shit.
Yes, of course. Which is basically the point Moran is making: that porn is a horrendous monoculture of shite, and what we need is more porn, better porn.
I think the long term mental health problems via chronic porn use are still unknown but could be prolific.
dionysus Wrote:I think the long term mental health problems via chronic porn use are still unknown but could be prolific.
I think I'd like to see some proper research done into that.
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droid Wrote:Some sexy research?
Is there any other kind?
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Naphta Wrote:dionysus Wrote:I think the long term mental health problems via chronic porn use are still unknown but could be prolific.
I think I'd like to see some proper research done into that.
im about 12 years in to a thorough investigation
Naphta Wrote:dionysus Wrote:I think the long term mental health problems via chronic porn use are still unknown but could be prolific.
I think I'd like to see some proper research done into that.
You could never ethically do an experiment (ie proper research), and therefore causation could not be implied (ie porn usage = mental health problems), but there is most likely some correlational studies showing strong relationships between porn usage and mental health issues. But its the chicken and egg question, are people with mental health issues more likely to use porn?
Fada Wrote:Naphta Wrote:dionysus Wrote:I think the long term mental health problems via chronic porn use are still unknown but could be prolific.
I think I'd like to see some proper research done into that.
im about 12 years in to a thorough investigation
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