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that photek break - cycom - 7th August 2009
Always wondered if the break Photek used so heavily on Modus Operandi is a known one? Those shuffled snares just sound so... well.. shufflin'
I think he first used it on "Rings around Saturn"...
And please leave your "get over it" comments to yourselves, will you?
I'm just interested.
that photek break - Stacks - 7th August 2009
It's the whole 'photek used to be good, now he's shite' thing that I think people should get over.
that photek break - cycom - 7th August 2009
Stacks Wrote:
It's the whole 'photek used to be good, now he's shite' thing that I think people should get over.
Stacks, I perfectly know what you meant.
It's just that I don't like to be labelled a backwards-looking person (cause I'm not) - still, I like to talk about those oldschool breaks
I sometimes think what Photek, Source Direct or Danny Breaks think when coming to this forum? (if they do)
"Get over it"?
(cause then they can fuck off!)
that photek break - panda - 7th August 2009
its the sound of the sweat dripping from his balls onto a carton of um bungo.
that photek break - Macc - 7th August 2009
that photek break - dsp - 7th August 2009
that photek break - snaper - 8th August 2009
Wasnt it the plastic jam break?
that photek break - cycom - 8th August 2009
no. I mean the other one.
I think he used three main breaks on Modus Operandi - I believe one is made of the same drum sounds as Hidden Camera, just tweaked (first on Rings around Saturn, then Modus Operandi) etc., the second one is the one used in fifth column, the third is that ni ten ichi ryu break (which uses quite some variations but for the sake of simplicity...)
I guess they're custom made (additional percussion sound on the snare, creating that wooden sound etc. etc.)
BUT
I'm quite sure the snares came from the same source. They just work too good together. The "offbeat snares" seem to have a slow attack, hence the strong and "dynamic" shuffle feel.
beat 1 (hidden camera etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waSkrjxVhXo (2 mins onwards)
beat 2 (fifth column etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWGzzSY2FlQ
beat 3 (ni ten ichi ryu etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSNG87eriHI (beatswitiching with beat 1)
listening to them again I hear there's a lot of comb filter effects, eqing and filtering, so probably it won't be easy to find the original samples. most probably they're even from some unknown drummer from a sample cd.
that photek break - markgabba - 8th August 2009
I'm wrong but the snare sounds a bit like the helicopter snare but pitched and eq'd different. Didn't he sample some shuffles and hats from old jazz breaks? (sure i read that somewhere once)
that photek break - Paradigm X - 8th August 2009
try this;
http://www.subvertcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47344
that photek break - panda - 8th August 2009
i think he made them himself, didn't he get a drummer in for some of them?
that photek break - Fada - 8th August 2009
^
yeh i always thought this... and then it was down to the processing afterwards.
but then again ive heard that snare sound in other dnb tracks by people who definetley wouldnt have those samples
that photek break - Fada - 8th August 2009
cycom Wrote:beat 3 (ni ten ichi ryu etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSNG87eriHI (beatswitiching with beat 1)
makes me drop my panties everytime
that photek break - Euphony - 8th August 2009
Fada Wrote:cycom Wrote:beat 3 (ni ten ichi ryu etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSNG87eriHI (beatswitiching with beat 1)
makes me drop my panties everytime
Mate, that's too much info!
that photek break - safetyboy - 8th August 2009
KJZ = unbelievable
that photek break - cycom - 8th August 2009
Paradigm X Wrote:try this;
http://www.subvertcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47344
Cheers, but...
Xaf Wrote:Its not the beats, just random percussive sounds he used....plus a few other good bits.
Fada Wrote:^
yeh i always thought this... and then it was down to the processing afterwards.
but then again ive heard that snare sound in other dnb tracks by people who definetley wouldnt have those samples
But THEN again they could've sampled Photek? :P
that photek break - Fada - 9th August 2009
cycom Wrote:But THEN again they could've sampled Photek? :P
true.
but that cleanly?
its rare i hear a photek track that has nothing but a snare hit/break etc, always seems theres some other sounds in the background
that photek break - markgabba - 9th August 2009
He has said he used to get different hits from different breaks all the time to make his own breaks pitching things up and down until the break sounded natural, so it really could be from anywhere.
He also used to sometimes spend months on just a single tune getting everything perfect and "thats why my tunes sound the way they do"
that photek break - cycom - 9th August 2009
markgabba Wrote:He has said he used to get different hits from different breaks all the time to make his own breaks pitching things up and down until the break sounded natural, so it really could be from anywhere.
He also used to sometimes spend months on just a single tune getting everything perfect and "thats why my tunes sound the way they do"
yeap, makes sense. if they were full breaks, they would've been used much more often. if you hear those photek trademark beats elsewhere, it always feels a bit "meh" - cause it's so obvious where they came from. bit strange, since nobody has problems using the same funk breaks over and over again. but of course it's different.
@Fada: it's not easy, but it's definitely possible to put those breaks together from snippets where no other sound gets in the way. I sampled the different kick drums and snares from Hidden Camera when it came out, but using them in own breaks always made them sound stale and a bit lame. But I then again what did I know about producing then?
that photek break - titanium - 10th August 2009
cycom Wrote:...But I then again what did I know about producing then?
did it get any better then
that photek break - Fada - 10th August 2009
that photek break - cycom - 10th August 2009
titanium Wrote:cycom Wrote:...But I then again what did I know about producing then?
did it get any better then
when I wrote it I thought: who will come up with the obvious joke?
not very surprised it's you
that photek break - titanium - 10th August 2009
cycom Wrote:titanium Wrote:cycom Wrote:...But I then again what did I know about producing then?
did it get any better then
when I wrote it I thought: who will come up with the obvious joke?
just a shame to let an easy one like that go
that photek break - cycom - 10th August 2009
agreed
that photek break - Hovver - 11th August 2009
cycom Wrote:if you hear those photek trademark beats elsewhere, it always feels a bit "meh" - cause it's so obvious where they came from. bit strange, since nobody has problems using the same funk breaks over and over again. but of course it's different.
depends how it's done, i think...eg, DSP's 'No Evil' - def my fave track of his - and quite obvious about sampling a couple of Photek breaks...i fucking love it for that though
Absolutely no difference for me between nicking that or an ancient funk break, it's just a killer sound - esp when it's used for little switches/fills like in that track (i'd admit that just using a full nicked Photek break as the main backbone to a dnb track would be a bit questionable
)but yeah, years down the line they'll prob (hopefully) be pitched about and used in hip hop/whatever else comes along anway. if it works, fuck it/sample it
