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[Statto]

Like Statto said it seems they have the blinkers on when it comes to drum and bass post 95/96.

I think they're just very bitter & tend to take it out on anything that's not mindblowingly original

The thing is, it's rare that someone comes up with something that is 100% mindblowingly original, and when someone does do that, people just dismiss it anyway...

The Wire's prime concern is with originality — its subtitle is Adventures in Modern Music — it's an innovative music magazine not a general one.

As regards dnb, to a large extent they're right — dnb has not been a particularly innovative genre over the past five years. That doesn't mean that dnb is not good. Good is something else — and subjective. But without the innovative factor it fails to fall within The Wire's purview.

Which leads on to the extent that they're not right. I think AO is correct here — they probably are bitter at the degeneration (as they see it) of a genre which was (as Simon Reynolds wrote) "the most thrilling sound on the planet" into just another form of dance music. So much so that they've packed in listening for any innovation in dnb — in fact they're not listening to it at all.

Thus they're still listing in their Out There UK Radio section...

FABIO & GROOVERIDER
Friday 1-3 am. Vanguard drum 'n' bass

when F&G are not where you go if you want to hear innovative dnb in 2003.

You'd think The Wire at least would know that you don't go the mainstream if you want innovation. But it seems they have a total mind block when it comes to dnb. Which brings me back to...

How to sell Subvert Central to The Wire. I'm still thinking about it.

[Macc]

how to sell subvert central to the wire. i'm still thinking about it.

:d

[Statto]

:d

but i like : simmons :

why on earth is it called simmons?

How to sell Subvert Central to The Wire. I'm still thinking about it.

Well asides from the music, I think the 'internet forum funds new label to get often-ignored strand of DnB on vinyl' angle is pretty innovative

Stacks

[Statto]

how to sell subvert central to the wire. i'm still thinking about it.

well asides from the music, i think the 'internet forum funds new label to get often-ignored strand of dnb on vinyl' angle is pretty innovative

that's the general plan yes

[Macc]

but I like : simmons :

why on earth is it called simmons?

WTF is it sposed to be doing?

I asked the : simmons : question a while back and got an answer from Blue and Strike i think its something to do with the film Kingpin or something !?

Alley Cat

she came to mind, too. she already plays this stuff like 'two drummers' by fanu.

germany:

de:bug magazine -> they cover a wide range of electronic music. but i guess you just have to contact orson here (at least i think that's the orson that reviews stuff for them, otherwise sven is the d&b man there). they also run a website.
groove magazine -> unfortunately they don't have articles about d&b anymore but at least miguel ayala of precision/socio still does reviews for them.
both magazines are available at recordshops throughout the country.

dj's / labels:
kabuki -> precision
lightwood -> santorin
ryan -> southern sessions
metro -> hard:edged
tgm -> basswerk
philipp maiburg -> combination
bassface sascha -> smokin drum (also has a weekly show on radio that can be heard on the web and by cable)
daniel savine -> offline

websites:
http://www.future-music.net
http://www.drumandbass.de

that's what i can think of at the moment.

[esb]

she came to mind, too. she already plays this stuff like 'two drummers' by fanu.

germany:

de:bug magazine -> they cover a wide range of electronic music. but i guess you just have to contact orson here (at least i think that's the orson that reviews stuff for them, otherwise sven is the d&b man there). they also run a website.
groove magazine -> unfortunately they don't have articles about d&b anymore but at least miguel ayala of precision/socio still does reviews for them.
both magazines are available at recordshops throughout the country.

dj's / labels:
kabuki -> precision
lightwood -> santorin
ryan -> southern sessions
metro -> hard:edged
tgm -> basswerk
philipp maiburg -> combination
bassface sascha -> smokin drum (also has a weekly show on radio that can be heard on the web and by cable)
daniel savine -> offline

websites:
http://www.future-music.net
http://www.drumandbass.de

that's what i can think of at the moment.

i'm part of the brokenbeatz roster and write the promo inserts for precision so i can talk to jan (kabuki) as well as metro & lightwood

i can also talk to alley cat as we are good friends

but I like : simmons :

why on earth is it called simmons?

WTF is it sposed to be doing?

U r joking arent you??!


I think all the wire has to do is read the impressive press release and listen to the cd and i think that should open their eyes!

[Statto]

I think all the wire has to do is read the impressive press release and listen to the cd and i think that should open their eyes!

that's the spirit

i'm part of the brokenbeatz roster and write the promo inserts for precision so i can talk to jan (kabuki) as well as metro & lightwood

oh yes, now i remember. well, i see the precision guys very often. miguel each week even.

i can also talk to alley cat as we are good friends

same here

oh yes, i discovered your thread about unwind radio session with orson. so he's the de:bug man.

germany:

de:bug magazine -> they cover a wide range of electronic music. but i guess you just have to contact orson here (at least i think that's the orson that reviews stuff for them, otherwise sven is the d&b man there). they also run a website.
groove magazine -> unfortunately they don't have articles about d&b anymore but at least miguel ayala of precision/socio still does reviews for them.
both magazines are available at recordshops throughout the country.

dj's / labels:
kabuki -> precision
lightwood -> santorin
ryan -> southern sessions
metro -> hard:edged
tgm -> basswerk
philipp maiburg -> combination
bassface sascha -> smokin drum (also has a weekly show on radio that can be heard on the web and by cable)
daniel savine -> offline

websites:
http://www.future-music.net
http://www.drumandbass.de

that's what i can think of at the moment.

excellent thanks a million CP_FFM!

but I like : simmons :

why on earth is it called simmons?

WTF is it sposed to be doing?

U r joking arent you??!

Word. Surely you all know who KISS are.

I think all the wire has to do is read the impressive press release and listen to the cd and i think that should open their eyes!

On this whole Wire issue, you all should certainly send them a media packet, but I'll warn you now that it's not likely to work. We tried with my album and were reliably informed by an associate editor (err, a regular contributor) that not only are they unlikely to listen to it, but they actually take a dim view of unsolicited submissions and reject them out of hand. Supposedly, they have a policy of only reviewing things that have arrived at the attention of the magazine through non-marketed means, i.e., word of mouth, hype, personal enthusiasm of an editor, etc.

In one way, it's a pretty good policy--keeps the mag from being PR extensions of labels' marketing--but it's also shit because it will inevitably lock-out good music which should have had a shot at the exposure.

But do try.

For Germany I'd also suggest Klaus Fiehe. He has a weekly 3h radio show on one of the biggest german radio stations (eins live) where he plays a lot of electronic music (often of the more abstract type). The show is relatively popular, at least for the type of music he plays, and I know that the listeners come from a very broad range of musical backgrounds, good for getting some listeners outside of dnb. I can easily imagine him to be into the SC sound. I don't have any contact info, but I'm sure the Brokan Beatz guys know how to reach him.

[esb]

for germany i'd also suggest klaus fiehe. he has a weekly 3h radio show on one of the biggest german radio stations (eins live) where he plays a lot of electronic music (often of the more abstract type). the show is relatively popular, at least for the type of music he plays, and i know that the listeners come from a very broad range of musical backgrounds, good for getting some listeners outside of dnb. i can easily imagine him to be into the sc sound. i don't have any contact info, but i'm sure the brokan beatz guys know how to reach him.

lemme drop glacius a line and see if he has some contact for him

klaus fiehe is a good idea.
though i don't have any other idea as far as germany is concerned. maybe one of the mannheim area dj's such as e.decay, soulsurfer or loo-p. but i doubt they will dig it.

austria:
http://www.drumandbass.at
d.kay

edit: littlenemo, any idea if spex cover d&b? haven't read that in a while. raveline maybe?

while were at it, we have contacts to some (albeit small, but theyre the only ones) magazines, run several regular radio shows and hold several residencies in different parts of switzerland. its a small country, but things are happening and some people have money to spare..

even though the pure rave-massive are strong, there are many potential good-music loving subverts out there, some of them just don't know yet.

for more info, check our page down here.

heres also an interview with me from two years ago:

http://www.bassride.ch/bassride/www/site...rviewID=16

we cannot provide centrefold spreads of blue and his mixing desk in the daily paper, but we can see to it that things get printed and heard at places where they find interested ears.


think-kru at your service.

The problem you will have with the types like JockeySlut etc .......... is that they will be likely to pigeonhole you straightaway and will pass judgement on what you are doing, this can instantly damage the cause that people are working toward.

THIS is exactly why you pr-empt such damage by taking the SELF-PROMOTION and MARKETING thing on properly, and aggressively... rather than hoping that the gods of Honest Musical Quality somehow smile sympathetically.

The majority of music journos will look for an angle - hence if u don't suppply one, they'll use whatever there is to hand, be it negative or positive.... thus it is imperative that any label or artist considers this process carefully and seeks ways to hand-feed press people nice juicy shit that they can then directly transcribe into their mags - a free facsimile of your own press release is achievable - believe me I've seen it done many a time!

But not if you just fire off the shit and somehow hope that 'because it's good, people wil care'. They won't.

I have been thinking about the Wire and also taken comments on board.....if they have a habit of throwing things aside...well ..we are just going to have to make them listen....do this by getting a representative to call into the Wire HQ and have a meeting with one of the editors...ya cant get more subversive than that....I believe they are based in London...so it aint going to be too hard to do!

he who can sell sand to egyptians can sell subvert central to the wire!

http://www.thewire.co.uk/about/send.html

click the link for their contact details...and have a laugh at the small print!!

http://www.thewire.co.uk/about/send.html

click the link for their contact details...and have a laugh at the small print!!

Good to know that. I was wrong then about official policy. But then again, that small print doesn't strike me as very encouraging. Pre-emptive brush-off?