Drum Loop Editing? - Printable Version

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Drum Loop Editing? - noisemonkey - 28th June 2003

What d'you use? I just use Cubase SX at the moment but can't get my head round the loop editor at all. I'm getting Recycle soon but it all looks a bit confusing....

Drum Loop Editing? - subvert - 28th June 2003

either do it manually in soudforge / wavelab etc or use a program like recycle or wavesurgeon.

they are well easy to use, but just make sure you manually check and if necessary alter the cut points that it automatically detects so as to avoid computer error

Xyxthumbs

Drum Loop Editing? - fanu - 28th June 2003

I cut&edit breaks / drums on Wavelab. It's an ok editor. Then I feed shit to my sampler as midi dump or on floppies. But this applies to drums only.

I'm looking forward to working with SCSI real soon...

Drum Loop Editing? - Macc - 29th June 2003

recycle is totally the way......

but as scope says, make sure you fine tune the slice points, cos while recycle is good, it isn't perfect. basically i always go through the sample and make sure each hit has its own slice, then go through it on maximum zoom to make sure it is spot on.

recycle has an annoying habit of putting the slice markers a few milliseconds too late, so you find yourself moving them all left just a little bit to compensate. unfortunately you can't f~cking garb them all at once Icon_evil

but recycle is, as i say, the way....... Yes

works about a million times quicker than doing it the soundforge/wavelab way...... even with the fine-tuning of slices.

Drum Loop Editing? - subvert - 29th June 2003

macc Wrote:but recycle is, as i say, the way....... works about a million times quicker than doing it the soundforge/wavelab way...... even with the fine-tuning of slices.

not always Smile

i can do it just as quick either way.
but theres a certain mode of cutting breaks that recycle simply wont do also....and that is having each hit play from the start of the hit to the end of the break, rather than ending at the end of that hit...

Xyxthumbs

Drum Loop Editing? - noisemonkey - 29th June 2003

nice one people...

Drum Loop Editing? - Macc - 29th June 2003

scope Wrote:
macc Wrote:but recycle is, as i say, the way....... works about a million times quicker than doing it the soundforge/wavelab way...... even with the fine-tuning of slices.

not always

i can do it just as quick either way.
but theres a certain mode of cutting breaks that recycle simply wont do also....and that is having each hit play from the start of the hit to the end of the break, rather than ending at the end of that hit...

fair do's. i used to do it the soundforge etc way before recycle came into my life Lovesmilie

, but it is swings and roundabouts i suppose etc.......

and btw, i just can't imagine a situation where i would use the method you mention (start of slice.end of loop) Baffled

ah well, to each their own, horses for courses...... and any other cliches you think appropriate...... :d

Drum Loop Editing? - subvert - 29th June 2003

the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain Hahaha

Drum Loop Editing? - Macc - 30th June 2003

Hahaha

Indeed,

Many a mickle makes a muckle Baffled

Drum Loop Editing? - fanu - 30th June 2003

Mustan kissan paksut posket.

Drum Loop Editing? - subvert - 30th June 2003

Fanu Wrote:Mustan kissan paksut posket.

thats just what I was thinking !

Drum Loop Editing? - fanu - 30th June 2003

scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:Mustan kissan paksut posket.

thats just what I was thinking !

It's a Finnish tongue-twister, meaning "the fat cheeks of a black cat" Hahaha

Drum Loop Editing? - noisemonkey - 30th June 2003

Cheers Fanu Hahaha

Drum Loop Editing? - subvert - 30th June 2003

Fanu Wrote:
scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:Mustan kissan paksut posket.

thats just what I was thinking !

It's a Finnish tongue-twister, meaning "the fat cheeks of a black cat"

its miles easier than 'red lorry yellow lorry' !!!

Drum Loop Editing? - noisemonkey - 30th June 2003

scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:
scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:Mustan kissan paksut posket.

thats just what I was thinking !

It's a Finnish tongue-twister, meaning "the fat cheeks of a black cat"

its miles easier than 'red lorry yellow lorry' !!!

or peter piper picked a peck of pickled pepper Hahaha

Drum Loop Editing? - fanu - 30th June 2003

scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:
scope Wrote:
Fanu Wrote:Mustan kissan paksut posket.

thats just what I was thinking !

It's a Finnish tongue-twister, meaning "the fat cheeks of a black cat"

its miles easier than 'red lorry yellow lorry' !!!

Ahem.....*pulls out the big guns*

What do you think about "VESIHIISI SIHISI HISSISSÃ"??? Another Finnish one Wink

Drum Loop Editing? - Darth Fader - 30th June 2003

a masturbating elephant in time, saves nine.

Drum Loop Editing? - fanu - 30th June 2003

Darth Fader Wrote:a masturbating elephant in time, saves nine.

Or a :bear: !!!

Drum Loop Editing? - Darth Fader - 30th June 2003

Starwars

Drum Loop Editing? - ALPHA OMEGA - 17th October 2003

I like drums Baffled

Drum Loop Editing? - Profane - 23rd October 2003

scope Wrote:
macc Wrote:but recycle is, as i say, the way....... works about a million times quicker than doing it the soundforge/wavelab way...... even with the fine-tuning of slices.

not always

i can do it just as quick either way.
but theres a certain mode of cutting breaks that recycle simply wont do also....and that is having each hit play from the start of the hit to the end of the break, rather than ending at the end of that hit...

but wouldn't the loop after the start point be out of time?

Drum Loop Editing? - ALPHA OMEGA - 23rd October 2003

Recycle's wicked for cutting a drumloop to smithereens!
& then reconstructing it again Logic & siince your slices are so small you can put the drum at any tempo in logic & it fits.
Marvelous stuff.

Drum Loop Editing? - Nomical - 12th November 2003

I've been using Recycle for quite some time now. I really like it.
But....

How about Phatmatik Pro 1.1

I took a look at the features and it seems very nice. I also read an interview with Klute who said he really likes this program. I presumably goes beyond Recycle 2.0 in every way.
One thing very nice about this software is that it's VSTi and standalone. You can chop up of course, but also rearrange slices inside Phatmatik without having to export the slices to a sequencer or editor.

Anyone who has some comments on this software?

Drum Loop Editing? - tyler - 15th November 2003

Nomical Wrote:I've been using Recycle for quite some time now. I really like it.
But....

How about Phatmatik Pro 1.1

I took a look at the features and it seems very nice. I also read an interview with Klute who said he really likes this program. I presumably goes beyond Recycle 2.0 in every way.
One thing very nice about this software is that it's VSTi and standalone. You can chop up of course, but also rearrange slices inside Phatmatik without having to export the slices to a sequencer or editor.

Anyone who has some comments on this software?

i tried it and i thought it really sucked, the slicing is just done in a really irritating way, if i remember correctly it doesnt even let you add your own slice points!

i would suggest kontakt or intakt cos i'm sure they can do everything phatmatik can, and probably a whole lot better

maybe i'm wrong but if your think of buying i would suggest at least giving it a test first if you can.

Drum Loop Editing? - ALPHA OMEGA - 16th November 2003

Yeah the Phatmatik doesn't look like it matches up to recycle or intakt for that matter.

But it's horses for courses.